# 17: Do you know what it means to miss New Orleans?
Sir friggin’ Bob Geldoff and his buddy Bono are NOT throwing KatrinAid… Oh well, podcasters RULE and we do our own benefit/charity shows! Music from New Orleans, about New Orleans and with New Orleans Blues feel! Shout Outs to the guys at AMP (you ROCK!) and guess what? No burps at all today!
September 22nd, 2005 at 8:47 am
Hey! This is Chris from BRAIN BUCKIT!!!! Thanks for playing “Rocket Science”! We really appreciate it! Good show too. Did you go to the bathroom right before you played our song?!?!?!
September 26th, 2005 at 9:56 am
FLAME ALERT! Live 8… LIVE EIGHT, you americans (well dutchmen living in america) are so ignorant. EVERYONE in the UK knew what live8 was about… I admit I was in the states the week before and couldn’t believe that no-one knew it was on let alone what it was about. For the record the G8 (worlds so called most powerful leaders) were meeting in Scotland. Live 8 was to bring to their attention that fact that more than 30,000 children die a day from poverty. See http://www.makepovertyhistory.org/ for more details. Katrina was bad, but imagine that everyday…. oh and by admitting that most of your listenership was non us and then playing a us advert for the red cross with a 1-800 number that doesn;t work anywhere else?!
After all that, keep up the kastpods!
END OF FLAME!
September 26th, 2005 at 10:59 am
Flame Alert Indeed (loving it!).
Ignorant? By saying Dutchmen (plural) instead of Dutchman (singular) you generalize your statement to an entire (large) part of the population. Propbably, the very part that is more politically aware then any other. I am assuming (bad habit on my behalf) that you think *I* do not know what the 2005 rendition was about. Well I do, it isn’t very hard to turn on the TV and see URL’s flying across the screen. However, my comment was based on the fact, which you admit to, that hardly any US based person knew this was going on or what it was about. That is not the personal mistake of anyone, simply because they live in the US or are ignorant. If, with an entire body of Muckety-mucks (the artists) and a bazillion dollar supporting industry you can’t get even get a point across (or make people aware that a free concert is on TV for that matter), I am sorry… You screwed up! They did it in the eighties, what changed?! As far as I am concerned, Live8 was one big missed opportunity, and that is sad!!! EXACLTY because so many people die each day. But, to raise awareness, you need to mobilize the people so they in turn can mobilize the politicians. Not the other way around. What we had here was a cool freebie concert on TV that nobody felt connected to because it was aimed at the politicians. That’s an error on behalf of the organization. I do not think that I am alone when I say that this looked more like an attempt to revive some over the hill careers then anything else.
Everyone that was alive and old enough remembers the first Live Aid. Everyone that was alive and old enough remembers the Freddy Mercury Tribute. So again, what changed?? Bob Geldof et al, just did not convey the importance of this event very well. Sorry if youn’t agree.
I agree living in Hell and 30K + people starving each day is a BIG DEAL. However, I fail to see how that reduces the tragedy that went on in New Orleans. That is like saying that the terrorist attacks in London weren’t as bad as the ones in NYC because less people died in London. That’s simply not true and I am sure that as a European you agree.
Lastly, I selected the Morgan Freeman spot because it was free, readily available and has a lot more impact then I could ever generate myself. For people outside the US that spot includes a URL to a web site, where they can go and find out how to help the relief effort from their own country. If that is too much work for those people, then maybe they just don’t care enough, much like those ignorant US based people don’t care enough about poverty.
End of Flame
September 26th, 2005 at 11:49 am
Ok, I made the mistake of writing the post as soon as I got out of the car after listening to your kast, having got wound up enough to shout at my MP3 player… and I’m wearing the white band so I will admit that I’m not a ‘typical’ joe public on this topic (though most of my peers do know about it, so too my kids and their friends). I (as I now realise) thought you were incorrectly playing down what Live8 was about. Didn’t mean to infer Katrina wasn’t bad - but working with so many Americans on a near daily basis I’ve found myself always coming across ‘the world is america’ syndrome and I frequently fall into the ‘there are other people out there too’ response. My mistake and I apolgise. I really should wait and think before I flame…
…as you brought up ‘Dutchmen’ - I also work with a lot of Dutch, but nobody seems able to explain where the term ‘Dutch’ comes from. English from England, Deutche from Deuchland, Francais from France… and Dutch from Nederland? (Excuse the spellings!)
September 26th, 2005 at 12:29 pm
Andy: The word Dutch, had to look it up — I am sure someone will disagree, was first used (as it applies to the language) in a communication between Charlemagne’s court and the Pope. In that case it refered to Old English. Later it was used to refer to the German language (Deutsch) and in (not sure) the 13th century it got extended to not just the language but also the people who spoke it (i.e.: from German — Deutsch — ancestory). The usage then narrowed again to “of the Netherlands” when the Netherlands became an independent state. In the US there is a language called Pennsylvania Dutch (the people speaking that language migrated to the US from Rhineland and Switzerland) which is more related to German, whereas Dutch (what is spoken in the Netherlands and parts of Belgium) is closer in relation to English.
Interesting is that the Dutch National Anthem contains the text: “Ben ik van Dietschen bloed” or “Am I of Dietschen blood”. Notice the spelling of the word Dietsch and not Deutsch. This (but that is just a guess) relates to the fact that people from the Netherlands (in this case relating to the region, not the country) are somehow all of germanic (not German) decent.
By the way, in 1934 Dutch officical were ordered to stop using “Dutch” to specify nationality and change it to “The Netherlands”, suposedly this was because in the English language the word “Dutch” is often used in a negative sense (going dutch, dutch treat, dutch uncle)
More info can be found at: http://www.etymonline.com
September 27th, 2005 at 1:46 pm
The Dutch have a major identity crisis, but they have been fighting for the right to have a crisis for many centuries. What other country has a national anthem that starts with: “Wilhelmus van Nassouwe ben ik, van Duitsen bloed” … yes, “… am I from German blood”.
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Also: ” den koning van Hispanje heb ik altijd geëerd ” or “I have always honored the king of Spain”. Historically that’s very funny, considering the 80 year war with Spain
September 27th, 2005 at 2:08 pm
Problem is that there are too many to choose from.
Ritaid
Katrinaid
Iranaid
Gasaid
…
Anyone else has some?
September 27th, 2005 at 2:10 pm
BTW, Iraniad is to help them NOT build a bomb.
September 27th, 2005 at 2:52 pm
It’s kind of hot here today, can Sir Bob maybe do Kool-Aid?
September 28th, 2005 at 12:45 am
Most of knowledge of the dutch has been coloured by the Baroque Cylcle from Neal Stephenson (Quicksilver is the first book). Its a Lord of The Rings size read BUT spans the time period from mid 1600’s to 1700’s and although an historical novel it is written in a SF style. The story moves between Boston MA, Amsterdam and london and includes (amongst many many other things) William of Orange, and the war with with Spain and France. So I have this mental image of people skating on the dykes (now theres a wierd picture for any americans), tall houses next to the canals, low morals and people spending all their time in coffee houses. Come to think of it, that’s exactly what Amterdam is now… apart from the skating!
It’s not a dry historical series - mix of SF (Isaac Netwon as an alchemist), sex, gratuitous violence, politics, slavery, econmoics etc
Spooky thing was I started reading it in Boston, was flying to Amsterdam as the story moved there and was sitting in heathrow airport when the story moved to London.
September 28th, 2005 at 4:08 am
Hmm, re-reading above, I should make it clear that I meant “.. most of MY knowledge of the dutch…”
September 28th, 2005 at 8:32 am
[quote]Come to think of it, that’s exactly what Amterdam is now…[/quote] For someone calling other people ignorant you sure have a way with over-generalizing things
Sorry you had that one coming hihi!
I read Stephenson’s books Snowcrash and Zodiac and loved them, but I think that lately he’s trying a little too hard. I also finished Cryptonomicon and although I think it’s a must read (especially to those who are into Dan Brown’s more technical work) it is at times dreadfuly slow paced and over detailed.
September 28th, 2005 at 9:31 am
cryptonomicon is effectively the 4th book in the baroque trilogy (!)… Enoch Root is in all 4 books (as your neighboUrs would say “go figure”)… and if you found that hard to keep going the others are much much worse
September 28th, 2005 at 10:20 am
It’s one of those rare books where the story is so good you want to know what happens next but then dread the knowledge that you are going to be struggling thru’ page after page of useless information to get there
One of those “get to the point already will ya!” things.
Andy are you on Skype?
September 28th, 2005 at 12:55 pm
yep, email at the address with my post - assume as admin you can read it!
October 31st, 2005 at 4:47 pm
Hey this is Ronnie
“Save New Orleans” Was a song I sang with my virtual band mates on myvirtualband.com. I thought I would give your listeners a shout out to Songfight.org where this song was created as part of a online songwriting contest. And a big thank you for the play time on skinnywhiteboy.
Sincerly
Ronnie Marler
August 15th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
howdy I quite enjoyed this website .